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I thought that it might be a Led Zepplin themed coaster when we saw the drawings of it in the forum thread. (Too many goofy negative arguments about a brand new park to comment in there though) The question is, will there be music jamming throughout the ride through the headrests?
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Over the hills and far away, Sounds good to me. Chuck
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Isn't that computer generated image from No-Limits vs. something that Keith McVein (3DVip) usually creates (since he does it so well)?
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I think there next ride should be an Intamin accelerator coaster (got the type name from RCDB), make it big like TTD and Kingda Ka and theme it to AC/DC-Highway to Hell. But in seriousness, it looks/sounds like a fun ride. I also agree with DawgByte, that does look like a No-Limits image compared to a more advanced 3D rendering.
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"Led Zeppelin are the icons of hard-rock music". Which is like saying Lawrence Welk is the icon of champagne music. Both with the same amount of appeal to today's youth.
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Based on the conceptual drawings, it does not appear to be floorless.
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If they have "Rock-n-Roll" blasting thru headsets, then I will never need to ride RnRC ever again....or at least until Disney *catches up*, musically... 
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Sure looks like NoLimits work to me.
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I'm actually surprised at the number of kids who dig classic rock, especially since I was never that much of a fan. And I'm not talking about teenage burnout boys either, I'm talking about well-to-do straight-A teenage girls that I've coached. Kids never fail to surprise me.
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It seems Zep, AC/DC, Aerosmith, and Pink Floyd are still popular with the kids who otherwise reject anything that's more than 5 years old. Well, and U2, but they've managed to come across on MTV as "not one of those old bands that my parents listened to."
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I'll have to chime in along with Jeff on the kids and classic rock. My son (at 21) and a lot of his college friends enjoy listening to classic rock as much as their more modern music. Although I can say my son is not a big AC/DC or Aerosmith fan, he does like Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin and The Who.
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It'll be playing "Whole Lotta Love".
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It just has to be named "Stairway to Heaven".
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Dropped my kids off at daycare yesterday and a little 4 year old girl had an AC/DC shirt on...
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dazed and confused.... I like the idea..
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Perfect name for a vekoma like Ninja at St. Louis.
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name of the song is Misty Mountain Lop 
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It just goes to show you that some bands create timeless music. By the way, I was created in the parking lot of a Zepplin concert. I guess I should make a point to ride it some day.
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There is a picture of the model on another site. Based on the model, elements are: straight lift -> straight drop -> vertical loop -> cobra roll -> zero-g roll -> vertical loop -> half helix/spiral drop thingy -> brake run -> twisted finale featuring at least one flat spin. The trains appear to be the "regular" sit-down type, like on Wildfire. (And if the first drop is like the one on Wildfire, be sure to sit in the back for major airtime.) I'm not a huge Zeppelin fan, but I like the coaster/soundtrack combination. Should be fun! - Aaron K
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So I'm assuming this is a B&M? based on the picture....
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John Hunt over at Roller Coaster Models.com has already built a model of the LZ coaster. I don't know if he's actually been contracted to do the model for the HRP, or if he is just adding it to his list of products he can build. Anyway, here's the link...this coaster looks like it's going to be awesome. http://www.rollercoastermodels.com/ledzeppelin.html*** This post was edited by Floorless Fan 4/13/2007 7:31:05 PM ***
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Well I'm 20 and I enjoy alot of classic rock like the Beatles, Boston and Aerosmith. You guys have to remember as well that Green Day is popular in this generation but they wearn't born yesterday either they started in the mid 80's.You also can't forget the godfathers of punk Bad Religion who have a new cd coming out in June.
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Classic Rock is British Invasion music/mid 6,0's and not Led Zepplin. The coaster should be good, the music will do little to enhance the ride experience.
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^^^ REALLY good find. Based on what we've got (B&M, the layout, the helix, location and direction of helix based on the renderings and whatnot, Led Zeppelin theme)....I'd say it's HIGHLY likely that the model IS an accurate depiction of what to expect for that ride. Love the zeppelin station!
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Few quick notes on why classic rock is still popular with kids today... A lot of them are still touring and writing albums. I don't think Aerosmith will ever stop putting albums out. I saw them in concert a year ago and Steven Tyler was still running up and down the stage like a twenty year old (no more back flips, though ). I know that two of the band members of Led Zeppelin are still touring every once and a while. A lot of these "classic" artists still end up on billboard's top 40 from time to time and it hits the kid's radar.
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I disliked Classic Rock when I was a kid, but as I grew up, I began to appreciate it for how it has affected the different styles of today.As for the coaster...based on the model, I think it looks boring. Out of the station "straight" into the lift, "straight" down the first drop, "straight" loop (can we please not go straight anymore? Thanks.), Cobra Roll (Convenient way to change the direction 180), Zero-G Roll (The only thing that saves the ride, imho), another "straight" loop, some kind of altitude changing helix to the "right"(maybe like Mantis, which will be kind of cool on a sit down looper), then "straight" up to the mcbr, then the boring part of a banked turn hill to the "right", a "flatspin" (corkscrew) to the "right", another helix to the "right" (where's the change of direction that all great coasters have?), and finally the safety brakes before ANOTHER "right" turn into the station.That's a lot of straight track and right turns, people. EDIT---I mean right turns...Changed and thanks for pointing it out.
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I see lots of "right" turns myself.
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<<<<<the godfathers of punk Bad Religion who have a new cd coming out in June. >>>> well, wrong forum, i love those guys, but i think the 'godfathers' of punk may be more along the lines of iggy pop, mc5... ramones, blondie at the least punk is little diff than 'hardcore' (in some ways the stones, just dont tell anyone) this ride looks great, but very typical B&M. zeppelin would be a great theme! but they sureley need a woodie! immagrint song or communication breakdown
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This is like a dream come true. Led Zeppelin is my all time favorite band, no doubt. Here are some themes I think it could have that haven't been mention: Achilles Last Stand Rock and Roll Battle of Evermore Heartbreaker Trampled Under Foot Yeah, I love classic rock.
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Heart did a good remake of Battle of Evermore.
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^I never knew that. That's pretty awesome.
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^^^L.P. I did suggest "Rock n Roll". And while I'd also *love* Immigrant Song, I think that's more suited to a launched coaster...since the song starts out hard and fast... This park theme has been LONG since overdue...
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I'm kind of surprised they didn't pick Rock 'n Roll as the song, but I'm also glad at the same time. I think it should be a medley of songs. Perhaps the slow, gentle portion of Stairway To Heaven as you ascend the lift, then something fast like Rock 'N Roll as you drop into the elements, than change it up a bit from there.
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Was it just a thought out of the blue or did I orginally hear that this was goingto be a hyper coaster?
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For what it's worth, I never heard such a rumor, and a buddy of mine has been keeping close tabs on the HRP project and has always said it was going to be a B&M looper.
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This would be a cool song sequence for the ride: station/pre-lift: What is and What Should Never Be lift: Stairway to Heaven next few element sequences: We're Gonna Groove next: Rock and Roll MCBR and element after: The Song Remains the Same next few elements: The Wanton Song Last few elements: Communication Breakdown Brake Run/re-entering station: Fool in the Rain or Celebration Day Sorry 'Gator, I was too thrilled when I saw a Led Zeppelin themed coaster and I do agree with you that this theme is LONG overdue. One thing we all must realize is how the park is going to get rights to the songs. I think the only song Led Zeppelin has released rights for commercials and other things thus far is Rock and Roll.
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I'm sure we'll get to hear all of these songs while waiting in line. Now if only they'd do a Van Halen ride for me.
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How anyone can judge a coaster based purely on stats or a model is beyond me. Many coasters with far-from-record-breaking stats or that might appear boring or "forceless" based on a model or layout schematic turn out to be just the opposite. Likewise many coasters with impressive stats or what looks to be an exciting layout end up being a major disappointment. I prefer to ride before I judge. mOOSH [The following post brought to you by Sky Princess, High Speed Thrill Coaster, Leap-The-Dips, Dania Hurricane, Hercules, Son of Beast, and many others...]
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^Me too, Moosh. Stats mean NOTHING to me. The coaster either "feels" good or it doesn't. That's all that matters to me. -Tina
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<<<<<the godfathers of punk Bad Religion who have a new cd coming out in June. >>>> well, wrong forum, i love those guys, but i think the 'godfathers' of punk may be more along the lines of iggy pop, mc5... ramones, blondie at the least punk is little diff than 'hardcore' (in some ways the stones, just dont tell anyone)
And well you can't forget The Sex Pistols (which would be great name for a dueling/racing themed coaster). Might not go over so well in a family themed park though.
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they definately need to have a ACDC coaster soon!
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The hyper coaster rumor was probably started when one of the investors or managers of the park mentioned in a magazine article (forgot which one) that he was working on a coaster for the park with a 200 foot vertical drop but this was like last 6-7 months ago when the article was published and he could have be possibly talking about a future coater. Either that or HRP scaled the ride down a little and made it s 150 foot ride instead. I wonder what the height restriction is for HRP because of the airport nearby.
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Agreed Moosh. The statistical difference between oG's Goliath and Nitro would favor Nitro but I gave the actual nod to Goliath, head and shoulders.
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This would be a cool coaster to test the "Hollywood Dream" technology state-side. That would be awesome, pick a Zeppelin song to listen to, plus the awesome lighting package and what not. It would fit perfectly at this park.
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Come on Moosh. We all like coasters for different reasons. I like coasters that disorient my sense of direction somewhat better than I like coasters that just go fast and high. For instance, I would much rather ride Hersheypark Wildcat once than ride Top Thrill Dragster three times. (I would really complicate my tastes if I told you that I like Hypercoasters for different reasons than coasters with a lot of changes in direction.) And I, being a unique individual, stand by my observation that the my first look at the Led Zeppelin Coaster's layout seems uninspired to me. I also like tracks with turns rather than the perfect oval shaped tracks when playing a driving game on my PS2. ...But I do understand where you, Andy, and Tina are coming from. After riding this coaster, I might decide that it was enjoyable, but I would still think the layout sucks. I forgot to mention how short the rest of the ride is after the MCBR. Just a curved drop, a flatspin, and you're done. Close your eyes and imagine riding the coaster.
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>>>And well you can't forget The Sex Pistols (which would be great name for a dueling/racing themed coaster). Might not go over so well in a family themed park though. <<< well wouldn't wanna start an argument... but always thought the brit punk thing was mocking the ny thing, and very secondary. if lots of people who were taking their kids to ride the zeppelin coaster knew some of the things that band did! such heathens Hell yeah! AC/DC would be a great theme! shoot to thrill, long way to the top, live wire... I totally agree with dexter, it's a very uninspired B&M layout. I really can't figure out why they haven't at least had 2 heartline rolls on one ride. but the public loves them, and they 'work' well and are dependable - high capicity too. I really think alot of old Arrow coasters would top them if they would get rid of the shoulder bars a-la Premier.
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This is pretty awesome. I can't speak for all college students, but THIS college student is a huge zep fan. I'm not entirely fond of classic rock as a genre, but Zeppelin was so creative/amazing in everything they did, it is hard not to be a fan. It is rare to find a really commercially successfull band that also appeals to someone like me who digs originality and such. And on that note, I think I have to agree with the lady who said her son listens to Zep, Floyd, and The Who, but not other classic rock bands. That is because Aerosmith and AC/DC suck. That is all. Ohh, and I'm just hoping they play the songs backward so we can hear the supposed satanic messages... I just had to throw that in there somewhere. Honestly, I love when there is music playing on a ride, even when it is bad music. This is just a step up from that, especially if they find a way to put Achilles last Stand on the ride.
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I don't disagree with you Dex. I just prefer to wait until I've ridden to proclaim a ride a winner or a dud.
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J7G3 said: well wouldn't wanna start an argument... but always thought the brit punk thing was mocking the ny thing, and very secondary.
I think they sort of fed off each other. According to "End of the Century", a Ramones documentary DVD, they never had any popularity until they went to England to perform. They would play large venues there then come back to NYC and play little dive bars. Anyway, there's no denying that Zep was mocking the Mississippi blues. That's where rock all stems from to begin with anyways...be it the NY scene, England, or what have you. It all goes back to Mississippi. *** This post was edited by thrillerman1 4/16/2007 12:28:06 PM ****** This post was edited by thrillerman1 4/16/2007 12:29:04 PM ***
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<<<Aerosmith and AC/DC suck. That is all.>>>> well, aerosmith may suck and are easy to make fun of. but AC/DC only sucks after 1979, after the original (well, pretty much) lead singer died. After that, all the music is the same and very boring lyrics. I totally agree with you thrillerman1, i think most rock music can be traced back to africa as a matter of fact, or something like that.
I think a great idea, I know it's been brought up before on here, is to have a whole park dedicated to rock n roll. hard rock park? well, it was be sellable. but to be truly rock and roll, you have to include so much more.*** This post was edited by J7G3 4/16/2007 9:45:19 PM ***
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oh hell yeah!!! this is going to be great! best 2 bands of all time are Led Zeppelin and Rush. and yeah, i agree, a medley of songs on this ride will be the way to go. man i love phish, the dead, and all those other jam bands, but NO ONE jammed as well as zeppelin, listen to some of the released live stuff or bootleg live recordings for proof. now we just need a coaster with Rush's YYZ or 2112 Overture/Temples Of Syrinx!! and yeah, AC/DC rocks!
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